Vol. 3 No. 11 & 12
November-December 2004

Jerry Bylander, Editor  jerryby@cableone.net

FEATURE ARTICLES

The Director's Column

Support

Your prostate support group and your directors can provide help to you if you are newly diagnosed or metastatic.  For example, I have talked to several people on the phone lately who had various questions about their or their friends/family diagnosis and choices.  We are also learning (or trying to learn) to put the best face on your condition, since the majority of us with PC have a high quality of life despite our cancer.

See you at the January meeting.  Jerry Bylander 

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Next Meeting


Date: Tuesday Evening, January 18, 2005
Location:  
Center, Wilson N. Jones North Campus, South Entrance, 3305 Calais

6:30 PM - Social & Coffee
7:00 PM - Program

Date and Time:  Tuesday, January 18, 2005  6:30 pm - Social Hour  7:00 pm - Program
Location:  Texas Cancer Center-Sherman, 2800 Highway 75N (and Cornerstone Road)      
Topic:  "You can plan on a great quality of life even with prostate cancer"

Speaker:  Members will discuss problems, concerns, and ways to deal with them.

Program:  
There will be a roundtable discussion of various topics such as dealing with "leakage" and other topics
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Last Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday, September 21,  2004, 7:00 PM
Place: Wilson N. Jones, North Campus
Attendance: approximately 25 attendees

Topic:  "Do you plan radiation therapy in place of surgery?"

Speaker: Dr. Hebert, Texas Cancer Centers, Sherman and Denison

Program:   Dr. Hebert  showed us through the Cancer Center’s graded and shaped beam machine which is designed to minimize damage to surrounding tissue.  She also discuss our options and the suitability of radiation for you against the option of surgery.

The meeting adjourned about 9 PM.

Henri Plunkett, Program Chair/by the Editor

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Other Important Events
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Editor's Notes

 

RADIATION THERAPIES COMPARED TO SURGERY WHEN TRYING TO CURE PROSTATE CANCER From an advocates opinion. After attending seminars for years the issue of which therapy is better has been an ongoing debate. If one has confirmed with early detection, low volume, nonsystemic prostate cancer, either therapy of all forms should cure. What do I mean by all forms of therapies? In surgery the most common therapy is a radical retropubic prostatectomy, which simply means opening the abdomen from the navel to the pubic bone. A newer approach used with great success at many teaching hospitals is a laproscopic prostatectomy, which there are only four small incisions used and a camera and a operating tube are used that is less invasive that opening the body cavity with the former mentioned surgery.  Remember surgery provides a pathologist with the specimen for final grading and a conclusion whether or not the cancer was organ confined. Radiation therapies are complex. Choices are radio active seed implants that remain in the prostate.  Also short term brachytherapy with high density radiation where no implants remain in the prostate. Then there are beam therapies such as external beam, 3-D conformal beam, IMRT (intensity modified radiation therapy), neutron beam, proton beam, and to make this even more interesting combinations of the radio therapies such a brachytherapy seed implants combined with a form of beam radiation. And just a little icing on top: many times androgen deprivation therapy (testosterone deprivation) needs to be administered before the treatments begin. Here are the side effects. It most commonly agreed that with surgery all side effects are up front and diminish over time and with radiation there usually are small effects early, but bigger effects develop over time. The big picture, to remember, is radiation can kill PC cells outside the prostate gland. Surgery's intent is to remove PC that is inside the prostate capsule or that is organ confined.  See you at the meeting at the January round table meeting ........... henri plunkett

Survey results from our local members

We have reduced the mailings to 83 from over 125 members as a result of our mailing to you.

Gland Volume

There is a objective formula for deriving the prostate gland volume which is derived from the ultrasound prior to biopsy.   It used with the baseline PSA, and the derivatives of the formula account for normal psa leakage into bloodstream verses high level psa leakage from the cancer.  This number then formulates into amount of cancer  probable in your prostate gland  and is measured in cc or millimeters of size. It is really not that complex, and I will e-mail the  formula to you if you ask. The point is a good doctor should do this calculation before recommending therapy, but as you know most don't and they will tell you it is not really necessary since they are experts in prediction without the (objective) tests. We have never had a doctor in Sherman who has used modern color Doppler when using ultrasound to measure your prostate size.  This equipment identifies vascular growth to tumor and easily helps predict early detection, or not.  Hormonal reduction adt (adjutant deprivation therapy) should always be used before radio therapy if 1) prostate volume is very large-- to help reduce target area and to sensitize cells for therapy, 2) if Gleason scores show aggressive mutated cancer such as scores of 8,9 10, and also to give patient time to go slowly and choose a therapy best suited for them. 3) if your doctor even remotely suspects systemic spread of cancer then in hopes testosterone deprivation works to destroy those escaped cells while radio therapy will knock out primary tumor..........and, oh!, there is always more..henri

After Surgery-- ALL THERAPIES THAT ATTEMPT TO CURE PROSTATE CANCER HAVE SIDE EFFECTS. THIS ADDRESS IS FOCUSED ON EFFECTS AFTER RADICAL PROSTATECTOMIES OR PROSTATE ABLATION THROUGH SURGERY. After surgery is performed a man is usually cleared from a hospital in a few days. However he usually convalesces in home with a catheter in place for a couple of weeks. Then the catheter is removed and the question of whether a man is able to regain continence or not begins. It appears all men have leakage of urine immediately post removal.  Fortunately men seem to experience non-leakage in about five weeks.  Some men experience leakage reduction in this time period but do not achieve continence. In time these men usually do become mostly continent.  However there is a small percentage who do not and will remain incontinent permanently. Obviously this is a bad situation. What medical procedures are available for this problem? First all men should be aware and perform Kegler exercises, (pretend to shut your urine stream off) and hold and release exercise. Next if all fails your urologist may indicate surgery to either put in an artificial sphincter or discuss a simple penile clamp to suppress urine leakage. Obviously both of these methods are not suitable to everyman. The worst case scenarios of incontinence become wearing pads or diapers that must be changed frequently. Or a surgery that drains the bladder into a unit on the outside of the body which sounds worse than it is as I understand this is actually tolerated better than one might think. OK, OK so none of this is a good thing, remember the worst case scenario happens to less than two percent of patients receiving this therapy. NEXT, erectile functioning. Yes there are always residuals after surgery of less potency for all men. This also varies from man to man. Younger men report regaining most of their erectile function, if nerve sparing techniques during surgery were used. As men's ages go up they seem to report less erectile function returning. Although this is a sexual issue, one need not be embarrassed, but only be honest since this way is how to receive help. After surgery usually the seminal vesicles, the prostate and the vas deferens have been removed. What this means is there will be no more ejaculate during climax.  However, sometimes a very small amount of fluid from the Cowpers gland appears as this is a fluid that protects the acid mantle of the urethra and usually this small gland is not removed during surgery. Dry ejaculation is not necessarily a bad thing, some women report this is a positive for them. Now suppose the ability to sustain an erection after surgery does not return? There is actually a lot of help in this area for men. First there are the drugs that increase capillary blood flow to the penis, such as Viagra, Levetra, and Cialis. If these do not help, usually they are used in conjunction with a vacuum pump. Vacuum pumps work by pulling blood into the penis; then the penis must be clamped to maintain the pressure. Downsides are the preparations while maintaining a air of sexual excitement with the mate.  Yes, for some men this seems to be a problem.  If little of this seems appealing then there is surgery. Surgery can implant an inflatable chamber with a pump placed into the scrotum to create an erection, when desired, and deflate on demand. There are also rigid rods that are implanted and you simply bend the penis into position for usage and then bend back when ready. How well these techniques work, of course, varies again from individual to individual. That is why one must always do his homework in the field of prostate cancer, and its related effects, to pick the best physician available in these fields to recommend and execute the best therapy for you........if you need more info see me or a doctor at our meetings. good luck...........henri plunkett

Examples of how a good doctor uses gv or gland volume in objective prediction.
From Dr. Strum, Henri's favorite source-Ed.
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Material posted here is intended for educational purposes only, and
must not be considered a substitute for informed medical advice from
your own physician.

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From: Stephen B. Strum MD, FACP
Medical Oncologist Specializing in Prostate Cancer
To: Joseph M. re: Richard LW
  ---- Original Message ----- 

Solid presentation of data.  I am encouraged by the continuous evolution of 
the PC patient and support team.  

A gland volume of 39 cc should equate with a benign PSA production of 
roughly 2.5.  Since the total PSA is 6.3, this leaves an EXCESS of PSA 
(assumed to be malignancy related) of 3.8 ng. Assuming for the moment that 
the Gleason score was
 VALIDATED by an expert in PC pathology, the PSA leak 
for such a Gleason score is 4.26.  Dividing the EXCESS PSA by this PSA leak 
gives us a calculation of the PC volume, which in this case would be 
3.8/4.26 or 0.89 cc of prostate cancer. 

ASSUMING these calculations have some basis in reality, we can say:

1. This is low volume PC and should be equated with good chance of OCD (organ 
confined disease). 

2. We would predict that other biologic expressions of tumor volume should 
confirm this. 

For example, in LW's case, the DRE revealed no palpable disease. This is 
consistent with small tumor volume but it is just one manifestation. 
Secondly, the core percentage was only 1 of 6 cores positive for PC.  This 
is a good finding, again consistent with small volume PC. 

The core involved represented 40% of the biopsy specimen.  This too is good. 

What we do not have is the free PSA percentage to reflect again the lower 
aggressivity of the PC process. The higher the free 
PSA percentage, the less 
aggressive the PC process. 

Carter HB, Partin AW, Luderer AA, et al: Percentage of free 
prostate-specific antigen in sera predicts aggressiveness of prostate cancer 
a decade before diagnosis. Urology 49:379-84, 1997.

OBJECTIVES: To evaluate serial measurements of free and total 
prostate-specific antigen (PSA) as a predictor of prostate cancer 
aggressiveness. METHODS: Twenty men diagnosed with adenocarcinoma of the 
prostate in the pre-PSA era had serum PSA measurements made on multiple 
stored frozen sera samples available for up to 18 years prior to diagnosis. 
Subjects were categorized as having aggressive cancer (n = 12) based on the 
presence of clinical Stage T3, or nodal or bone metastases (N+, M+), or 
pathologic positive-margin disease, or a Gleason score of 7 or greater; 
nonaggressive cancer (n = 8) was identified by the absence of these 
criteria. RESULTS: There was no statistically significant difference in free 
PSA levels among men with aggressive and nonaggressive prostate cancers from 
0 to 15 years before diagnosis. Total PSA levels were significantly 
different between the groups by 5 years before diagnosis (P = 0.04). At a 
time when total PSA levels were not different between groups (10 years 
before diagnosis), there was a statistically significant difference in the 
percentage of free PSA between aggressive and nonaggressive cancers (P = 
0.008). Among 14 men who had sera available for analysis at 10 years before 
diagnosis, all 8 men with aggressive cancers had a percent free PSA of 0.14 
or less; this compares with only 2 of 6 men (33%) with nonaggressive cancer. 
CONCLUSIONS: These data suggest that the percentage of free PSA in sera is 
predictive of tumor behavior at a time when total PSA levels provide no 
information on tumor aggressiveness. Evaluation of the percentage of free 
serum PSA may be helpful in making the decision between expectant management 
and treatment for those men who
 are diagnosed with early prostate cancers by 
PSA testing. 


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PSA HISTORY

11/18/96 RPCI PSA 2.90

06/10/99 RPCI PSA 4.26

09/15/99 RPCI PSA 4.38

12/15/99 RPCI PSA 3.79

03/13/00 RPCI PSA 4.27

01/12/01 Quest PSA 4.70

07/06/01 Quest PSA 5.60

03/27/02 Quest PSA 4.00

04/02/03 Quest PSA 6.20

10/08/03 Quest PSA 5.20

04/15/04 Quest PSA 6.90

08/02/04 Quest PSA 6.30 FPSA 11%

PSADT ­ (4/2/03 Thru 8/2/04 = 4 Readings) 9.67 Years.>>

A few points to be made.  A healthy prostate should make no more than 1.0 
ng/ml of PSA.  Patients with BPH will exceed this but their PSA velocity 
will be less than 0.75ng/ml/year and their PSA doubling times will be 
usually in excess of 12 years, and often 15 years or greater. 

Any PSA value of greater than 2.0 should be of concern for a man as regard 
to what does this level reflect.  In LW's case, he has had a serial increase 
in PSA's that is consi
stent with a neoplastic process for some time.  His 
variations in PSA with both the Quest and other PSA assay may be a 
reflection of lab error, sexual activity (ejaculation) within 48 hours prior 
to the actual PSA testing or to a level of prostatic inflammation 
(prostatitis). The low Free PSA percentage attests to a need to treat this 
gentleman since such low values usually indicate biologically active PC. 


SUPPLEMENT/VITAMIN REGIMEN
Multivitamin, 81 mg aspirin

QUESTIONS:

1. Based on my BX and my PSA History, am I a candidate for Watchful
Waiting??>>


I think you are an excellent candidate for a shot at cure of PC after 
further evaluation.  Given the likelihood that you have had PC for at least 
8 years, I would not lean towards a watchful waiting (I prefer the term 
"Objectified Observation") approach.  However, I do not know the context of 
your medical story.  Therefore, my first inclination would NOT be to 
recommend OO. 

<<2. Should I have further
 Imaging done such as (CT Scan, Prostascint Scan,
Color Doppler etc.) or additional Blood Markers??>>

CT scanning in such a setting is essentially worthless.  Your risk of lymph 
node involvement ASSUMING the Gleason score really is 6, CS is T1c, bPSA is 
6.3, core percentage is 17%, is negligible per the Bluestein, Narayan, 
Partin, Kattan nomograms. Thus any study to assess nodal involvement would 
be not indicated based on our current knowledge of PC.  Your risk area 
needing further assessement is with ECE(extra-capsular extension). 

The TRUSP that you had for diagnostic purposes SHOULD have mentioned the 
integrity of the capsule, the seminal vesicles and any concern for 
involvement beyond the prostate. Unfortunately, the majority of those doing 
diagnostic TRUSP with biopsies use the TRUSP as a tool for targetting the 
biopsies and too many urologists do not even generate a formal report of the 
TRUSP.  See Appendix F in "A Primer on Prostate Cancer, The Empow
ered 
Patient's Guide" by Strum & Pogliano for the different "FORMS" used in PC 
management and how we are NOT utlilizing tools that are cheap and available 
to more accurately assess the man with PC.  When patients join together and 
demand that such acts of translational medicine be employed, the status of 
the man with PC will be more akin to the advances that the AIDS patients 
have made because they are pro-active.  Your life is at stake. And, the 
squeaky wheel gets the grease. 

<<3. If not WW, which treatment, surgery, external beam radiation, seeds or
combination seeds and EBRT offers me the best chance of long-term survival?>>

The major issues that face a man re: PC are: 

1. Do I have PC?
2. Is it an indolent form of PC, more aggressive or very aggressive?
3. Where is the PC (stage)?
4. What kind of tumor volume do I have?
5. Do I need to down-volume the tumor with ADT(androgen deprivation therapy) 
prior to a local or regional therapy to  make such 
a therapy more able to 
totally eradicate the PC?
6. Do I have any particular aspects of my biologic profile that would alter 
a local, regional or systemic approach to therapy?

In your case, 1 & 2 are answered, in my opinion.  You do not have indolent 
PC and it appears that you do not have very aggressive PC. 
You do appear to have OCD but you need some enhancements of staging.  See my 
presentation in Canada at http://www.cpcn.org/. 
Your tumor volume appears to be less than 1 cc. 
Thus, I would suggest the following: 

1. PAP blood test since this should be less than 3.0. 

Han M, Piantadosi S, Zahurak ML, et al: Serum acid phosphatase level and 
biochemical recurrence following radical prostatectomy for men with 
clinically localized prostate cancer. Urology 57:707-11, 2001.

OBJECTIVES: Serum acid phosphatase (ACP) was once used as the marker for 
advanced prostate cancer. However, with the development of assays for 
prostate-specific antigen (PSA), a more sensitive and specific tumor marker, 
the use of ACP has diminished. We investigated the prognostic value of 
preoperative serum ACP in predicting prognosis for men with localized 
prostate cancer following radical retropubic prostatectomy (RRP). METHODS: 
Of 2293 men treated from 1982 to 1998, 1681 men had a preoperative ACP 
measurement using an enzymatic assay. We analyzed the actuarial freedom from 
biochemical (PSA) progression following RRP according to ACP levels. We used 
multivariate logistic regression and proportional hazards models to 
determine the independent prognostic value of ACP level with respect of 
pathologic stage and biochemical recurrence. RESULTS: ACP was not an 
independent predictor of organ confinement or lymph node involvement in the 
multivariate logistic regression models using preoperative variables. 
However, in the proportional hazards model, ACP was an independent predictor 
of tumor recurrence following RRP, and there was a statistically significant 
improvement in biochemical recurrence-free survival for men with lower 
levels of ACP (P <0.001). Furthermore, the normalized hazard ratios of ACP 
and PSA for predicting biochemical recurrence were similar. CONCLUSIONS: 
Stratification of men according to their preoperative ACP levels was 
predictive of patient outcome after RRP. Proportional hazards modeling using 
preoperative variables demonstrated that the serum ACP level is an 
independent predictor of tumor recurrence following RRP.


Dattoli M, Wallner K, True L, et al: Prognostic role of serum prostatic acid 
phosphatase for 103Pd-based radiation for prostatic carcinoma. Int J Radiat 
Oncol Biol Phys 45:853-6, 1999. 

Department of Radiology, University Community Hospital, Tampa, FL 33613, USA 
 
PURPOSE: To establish the prognostic role of serum enzymatic prostatic acid 
phosphatase (PAP) in patients treated with palladium (103Pd) and 
supplement
al external beam irradiation (EBRT) for clinically localized, 
high-risk prostate carcinoma. METHODS AND MATERIALS: One hundred twenty-four 
consecutive patients with Stage T2a-T3 prostatic carcinoma were treated from 
1992 through 1995. Each patient had at least one of the following risk 
factors for extracapsular disease extension: Stage T2b or greater (100 
patients), Gleason score 7-10 (40 patients), pretreatment prostate specific 
antigen (PSA) >15 ng/ml (32 patients), or elevated serum PAP (25 patients). 
Patients received 41 Gy conformal EBRT to a limited pelvic field, followed 4 
weeks later by a 103Pd boost (prescription dose 80 Gy). Biochemical failure 
was defined as a PSA greater than 1 ng/ml (normal <4 ng/ml). RESULTS: The 
overall, actuarial freedom from biochemical failure at 4 years after 
treatment was 79%. In Cox-proportional hazard multivariate analysis, the 
strongest predictor of failure was elevated pretreatment acid phosphatase (p 
= 0.02), follow
ed by Gleason score (p = 0.1), and PSA (p = 0.14). 
CONCLUSION: PAP was the strongest predictor of long-term biochemical 
failure. It may be a more accurate indicator of micrometastatic disease than 
PSA, and as such, we suggest that it be reconsidered for general use in 
radiation-treated patients.

Reviewer's Comments:
This is an additional report on the value of this biochemical test 
indicating a higher risk of disease outside the prostate and likely to be 
outside of the RT port of treatment. This is a companion article to that of 
Moul et al pointing out a four-fold increase in PSAR post RP when the PAP is 
3.0 or higher. 


2. Do an endorectal MRI and if possible with spectroscopy but do this after 
waiting at least 8 weeks from the time of the biopsy since post-biopsy 
hemorrhage will make interpretation of the study more difficult. 

3. If possible, try to make sure that those doing the above study have 
significant skills and also state of the art equipment.  I just
 returned 
from hearing a presentation by Dr. Barentsz from the Netherlands where the 
quality of the endorectal MRI is enhanced significantly by the use of the 
3.0 Tesla magnet used in the MRI.  Dr. Barentsz is also doing "DYNAMIC" MRI 
which allows an assessement of the prostatic blood flow.  

An alternative to the above is color Doppler ultrasound with skilled people 
like Fred Lee, Duke Bahn and others. 

THEN, with the above findings in hand, along with issues discussed such as 
your AUA symptom score and Sex Health Information for Men (SHIM) score, you 
can decide on the issue of RP (nerve sparing) versus Seed Implant with or 
without external beam radiation therapy (EBRT) +/- ADT, IMRT alone versus 
IMRT with or without ADT prior to and during IMRT, cryosurgery, HIFU or 
primary ADT. 


<<4. Is Laparoscopic/Robotic Prostatectomy proving superior to conventional
Radical Prostatectomy or is it too early to tell?>>

IMO, too early to tell.  My frame of reference is small regarding outcomes 
using laparoscopic RP and even less so with robotic RP.  The latter is in 
the purview of docs like Ash Tewari.  Since Ash is now in NY, perhaps your 
group should have him speak. 

Ashutosh Tewari, MD
Director Robotic Prostatectomy
and Urologic Oncology Outcomes 
Weill Medical College of Cornell University
 
New York Presbyterian Hospital
Brady Urologic Health Center
525 East 68th Street
Starr 900
New York, NY  10021
Phone: 212 746-5643
Fax: 212 746 8396
ashTewari @ med.cornell.edu
http://www.theehealth.com/robotics/ 


<<5. Can you identify the centers of excellence where LRP is being performed?>>

No.  Not enough experience directly or even indirectly on my part. 

<<6. Please indicate your recommendation for radiation protocol in my case:
External Beam, Brachytherapy or both??
If External Beam Plan- IMRT or 3D Conformal??>>

I would want additional inputs first re: confirmation of sense of tumor 
volume and location.  If studies confirmed a low tumor volume, then 
consideration for seed implant alone might be part of my recommendation. I 
favor IMRT over 3D-CRT but there are still some radoncs that use 3DCRT very 
well. 

In either case, I also lean towards the use of ADT3 for purposes of reducing 
tumor volume and enhancing RT outcomes.  I also use the ADT3 to not only 
decrease the volume but as a prognosticator for RT outcomes. 

Zelefsky MJ, Lyass O, Fuks Z, Wolfe T, Burman C, et al: Predictors of 
improved outcome for patients with localized prostate cancer treated with 
neoadjuvant androgen ablation therapy and three-dimensional conformal 
radiotherapy. J Clin Oncol 16:3380-3385, 1998.


Purpose. - To identify prognostic variables that predict for improved 
biochemical and local control outcome in patients with localized pro
static 
cancer treated with neoadjuvant androgen deprivation (NAAD) and three- 
dimensional conformal radiotherapy (3D-CRT).

Materials and Methods: Between 1969 and 1995, 213 patients with localized 
prostate cancer were treated with a 3-month course of NAAD that consisted of 
leuprolide acetate and flutamide before 3D-CRT. The purpose of NAAD In these 
patients was to reduce the preradiotherapy target volume so as to decrease 
the dose delivered to adjacent normal tissues and thereby minimize the risk 
of morbidity from high-dose radiotherapy. The median pretreatment 
prostate-specific antigen (PSA) level was 13.3 ng/mL (range, 1 to 360 
ng/ml.). The median 30-CRT dose was 73.6 Gy (range, 64.8 to 81 Gy), and the 
median follow-up time was 3 years (range, 1 to 7 years).

Results: The significant predictors for improved outcome as Identified In a 
multivariate analysis included pretreatment PSA level < or equal to 10.0 
ng/mL (P < .001), NAAD-induced preradiotherapy PSA
 nadir less than or = 0.5 
ng/mL (P < .00 1), and clinical stage less than or equal to T2c (P < .04). 
The 5-year PSA relapse-free survival rates were 93%, 60%, and 40% for 
patients with pretreatment PSA levels less than or = 10 ng/ml, 10 to 20 
ng/ml, and greater than 20 ng/mL, respectively (P < .001). Patients with 
preradiotherapy nadir levels less than or = 0.5 ng/mL after 3 months of NAAD 
experienced a 5-year PSA relapse-free survival rate of 74%, as compared with 
40% for patients with higher nadir levels (P < .001). The Incidence of a 
positive biopsy among 34 patients pretreated with androgen ablation was 12%, 
as compared with 39% for 117 patients treated with 3D-CRT alone who 
underwent a biopsy (P < .00 1).

Conclusion: for patients treated with NAAD and high dose 3D-CRT, 
pretreatment PSA, preradiotherapy PSA nadir response, and clinical stage are 
Important predictors of biochemical outcome, Patients with NAAD-induced PSA 
nadir levels greater th
an 0.5 ng/mL before radiotherapy are more likely to 
develop biochemical failure and may benefit from more aggressive therapies.


Prognostic Finding                            5-year Relapse Free Survival
PSA less than or = 10                                            93%
PSA >10 less than or =20                                      60%
PSA > 20                                                               40%
PSA nadir less than or =0.5 after 3m*                    74%
PSA nadir >0.5 after 3m*                                       40%

* after 3 months of neoadjuvant androgen deprivation with Flutamide 250 mg 
every 8 hours + Lupron 7.5 mg i.m. monthly. I would interpret this to be the 
PSA value after a full 3 months of ADT = the PSA taken just prior to 
starting the 4th injection of Lupron. 


81 Gy if done by a radiation oncologist that would be considered an artist. 

<<7. What would be the major side effects of the treatment you recommend??>>

You should read the in-depth portions of the PRIMER ( "A Primer on Prostate 
Cancer, The Empowered Patient's Guide") that deals with these issues. You 
have to understand the limitations of time and typing involved here. 

<<8. What would be the success rate (5-10 years PCa free) of the treatment
that you recommend??>>

Most studies still have PSA relapse free interval data at 5 years.  A few 
using RT modalities have longer follow up. The Primer has some tables of 
outcomes relating to RT and cryosurgery at 5 years and beyond.  I suggest 
that you and your group be proficient in your understanding of PC and use 
the PRIMER as a guide to topic discussions in your meeting.  This book 
reflects decades of experience and extensively reports from the medical 
literature as well. 

Good luck. 

Stephen B. Strum MD, FACP
Medical Oncologist Specia
lizing in Prostate Cancer 




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